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elnortenoe
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:32 am Reply with quote
Elnortenoe Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 526 Location: Muldoon
Hasn't Bike Club been talking about this stuff for a while? (Benzene levels in Anchor town)

http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/536540.html

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tchotch
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:49 am Reply with quote
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there is a psychological link between people and different modes of transportation, but it's the opposite of what you said. The kind of transportation one uses affects their psychology. While driving, one is 1)traveling very fast, or else not moving at all, 2) is in a large, massive vehicle, and 3) are cocooned in an ambiance of their own making (and presumably to their preference). So, they are in a situation where they are A)able to make powerful things happen very quickly, or else would be if that asshole would get out of their way, B)it is very difficult for something to get their attention without threatening their safety or inconveniencing them, since they are focused strictly on those things which they need to be focused on to avoid collisions (+ those things which they are doing but shouldn't be doing, like eating, smoking, talking on the phone, texting, doing sudoku, juggling flaming chainsaws, adjusting the stereo settings, etc). So, if something pierces through to their perceptions, it is bound to be something unexpected, and it will bother them more than may seem strictly rational. Thus, all dwivers hate all other dwivers, but usually cannot tell them, and hate everything else, including bikers, who they can tell, and often do. They hate bikers because they are behaving irresponsibly by being in the way of a big thing that's traveling quickly, and by making the person in the big thing be obliged to think about them when they are clearly very busy. the typical dwiver will note at least 8 instances an hour of a person other than themselves causing them to be late for their appointments, and will imagine each of the other people roasting in hell for it.

Bikers are smaller and are not, by and large very massive, but are traveling very fast, and more importantly are more aware of the speed at which they are traveling than carnosaurs are, since they can feel and hear the wind rushing by, and have evolved to take this cue to mean that they're really hauling. Furthermore, it is a quality of a bicycle that relatively minor deviations in the road conditions can seriously affect the quality and safety of travel, and so they are generally very keenly aware of pebbles in the road, manhole covers, small chuckholes, cats, and a plethora of other small things that carnosaurs roll right over without having to think about. Any of these things can potentially cause the bicycle to suddenly change attitude and fly sideways through the air, which tends to make bikers uncomfortable. Add into the mix the fact that there are monstrous, poison-vomiting tractors sharing the road with them and frequently passing close enough to kiss the biker on the cheek (which they do not even do), and you can see why perhaps the biker may occasionally seem a bit tense and self-righteous. It is also possible for bikers to discern that it is a nice day or not so nice a day, and peculiarly, that either way, there's something fun about being out in it instead of stuck in traffic, which is a lot like sitting on your couch at home watching TV, but more impatient since in traffic there usually isn't anything good on. The biker simply can't talk on the phone, eat, or do any of the things I mentioned, except juggle, while trying to get somewhere, and don't tend to have the tedious down time that carnosaurs do, and are doing something that would be good for them if it weren't for the pollution, and basically are enjoying everything except carnosaurs, which appear to be designed to kill them in several ways, and dwivers, which want to.

Truly the most well adjusted people are those that walk or take the bus. They have the advantages of being out and engaged in the world, getting to perceive birds, cats, people and dogs, without worrying about killing them, have a lot of leftover attention to ponder whatever they like, and most importantly, have structured their entire life in such a way that they are not in a hurry at any time, since they are unable to hold down time-sensitive jobs, and take so much time getting from place to place that their friends, already wary of them constantly bumming rides off them, never invite them anywhere.

So you can see that it is not the type of person that makes the transportation choice, but rather the transportation choice that makes the type of person. This was my master's thesis, actually.


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elnortenoe
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:22 pm Reply with quote
Elnortenoe Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 526 Location: Muldoon
I agree with you Owen precisely however I think that in addition some people do not have a choice of transportation because for instance a carnosaur gets into an accident, and therefore reduces the options of transportation (given this person has only one carnosaur...) Also if you ever get on a People Mover you can see sub groups such as the homeless, drunkards tend to stick together while the more upscale person sometimes travels alone, and generally puts his material items on the next seat so as to occupy a row for themselves... Also people using methods other than carnosaurs in Anchortown are perceived in my opinion as low class citizens that are either homeless, or about to become homeless... Perhaps a classless society where everyone has the same status?

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elnortenoe
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:14 am Reply with quote
Elnortenoe Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 526 Location: Muldoon
How about this? this article indicates that people like carnosaurs that seem angry does this go into bike looks as well? like people choosing lighter components less spokes... tyres...


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27053487/

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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:04 pm Reply with quote
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Future show topic: The Myth of Gyges Ring. This is just here to remind me, but feel free to brainstorm if you want.

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elnortenoe
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:53 pm Reply with quote
Elnortenoe Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 526 Location: Muldoon
Can I make a request that OTC Radio stick to cycling themes and not go off into a religious tangent (unless it involves cycling)...

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brettjamin
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:52 am Reply with quote
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What do you mean "a religious tangent"?


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elnortenoe
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:55 am Reply with quote
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once when I was at the show recently someone... I will not name names Ben started talking about god existing because of the natural numbers or something... then it seems like last Friday something similar almost happened but got under control before it became a tangent...

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brettjamin
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:02 am Reply with quote
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I think that the Natural Numbers thing might have missed its target. It was a [thinly] veiled reference to the beauty, and simplicity of the natural numbers. The natural numbers can be used to create all the rest of the number.

from http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Mathematics-and-God:
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Leopold Kronecker is quoted as saying "God made the natural numbers, all the rest is the work of man." However, this was intended more in the Kantian sense that they are given to us in intuition than in the literal sense that God created them.


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elnortenoe
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:09 am Reply with quote
Elnortenoe Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 526 Location: Muldoon
I think most people would think it a stretch though to relate that to cycling... although simple and some are beautiful not all bikes are pleasing to look at...

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Interesting job.

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